Geekery and the humanities

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Cross posted at Geek Fem­i­nism.

I was at Apol­lo­Con in Hous­ton this year, and am really glad I went. I was on a cou­ple of pan­els, met some really nice peo­ple, and got to pon­tif­i­cate about geek cul­ture and sci­ence fic­tion for a few days. A cou­ple of things really got under my skin (I think this may be my fate at every con I go to), but the one that made me the sad­dest hap­pened at the Geek Girls in Pop­u­lar Cul­ture panel, which I was a part of. Dur­ing our clos­ing remarks, I noted that we seem to only be includ­ing women in the science/tech/math fields when we talked about “geek girls” and this is, I think, a real prob­lem. As a humanities-based geek myself, it made me feel like I was being left out, but also it seems to include the assump­tion that the STEM fields are sim­ply bet­ter than the human­i­ties, and every­one would be bet­ter off if all geeks were in those fields. I worded it care­fully, because I didn’t want it to sound like an accu­sa­tion, and so it came out much more “Dude, I’m a geek too, and it hurts my feel­ings when every­one acts like I should be a com­puter nerd to count as one.” The answer I got shouldn’t have sur­prised me, but it did. One of the pan­elists, and at least two audi­ence mem­bers chimed in with, “Well, the only rea­son you’re in the human­i­ties is because you’ve been dis­cour­aged from being in STEM.”

I was kind of stunned by that answer, in part because I had just told this group of peo­ple that I am mak­ing the human­i­ties my career, and their response was to basi­cally argue that it’s worth­less, or at least worth less. So I didn’t say any­thing for a sec­ond, try­ing to come up with an answer that wasn’t, “Fuck you. The major­ity of my work lately has been deter­min­ing the val­ues of this moth­er­fuck­ing sub­cul­ture right here, and you are the sub­jects of that work. It doesn’t make any sense for you to tell me that that isn’t worth­while.” I had told these peo­ple that I do fan stud­ies, and as fans, their response is tell me that I only chose my field because I had been dis­cour­aged from doing more impor­tant work? Seriously.

Some­one on the panel did back­track a lit­tle, say­ing “well, we should be encour­ag­ing every­one to be in the fields they enjoy and are good at, what­ever that may be,” but there’s still this…niggling. Because this is not the first place in geek cul­ture I have seen a strong pref­er­ence for STEM over the human­i­ties, and it’s not the first place I’ve seen it out­right said that the for­mer is bet­ter than the lat­ter, espe­cially for women. And that’s pre­cisely what that argu­ment is; by say­ing that I’m only in the human­i­ties because every­one knows girls are bad at STEM, they are argu­ing that all things being equal, every girl (or at least geek girl) would choose STEM. Because, you know, it’s bet­ter. Maybe the rea­son we like to think this is that geeks tend to buy hook, line, and sinker the idea that logic is bet­ter than emo­tion and objec­tiv­ity is bet­ter than sub­jec­tiv­ity. And we asso­ciate human­i­ties with the lat­ter and the sciences/math with the for­mer. But sub­jec­tiv­ity and emo­tion are not poi­son and they are not invalid. If you think an argu­ment with­out emo­tion is the best kind of argu­ment, go preach eat­ing babies to the poor. If you think that sub­jec­tive expe­ri­ences don’t mat­ter, then I guess we can all stop lis­ten­ing to the mar­gin­al­ized peo­ple of the world talk­ing about dis­crim­i­na­tion in their lives. Because “objec­tive” more often than not just means the words of white, het­ero, cis men, whose expe­ri­ences are fig­ured as neu­tral and who we seem to think are unaf­fected by their sex, race, class, sex­u­al­ity, etc.

I’m not claim­ing that every indi­vid­ual geek is con­sciously a logic-worshipping dude who hates gross lady feel­ings. But this logic wor­ship is some­thing that flut­ters just under the sur­face of geek cul­ture, and man­i­fests in seem­ingly harm­less state­ments like those made at this panel. In this cul­ture, mas­culin­ity is logic and sci­ence and fem­i­nin­ity is emo­tion and feel­ing, and one is clearly supe­rior to the other. Look at the show Big Bang The­ory as an exam­ple. while Leonard is our hero, he is not the star of this show; Shel­don is. And Shel­don, let’s be hon­est, is kind of a dick. He has no regard for other peo­ple and doesn’t think any­one is as impor­tant as him­self. But he’s smart, and super log­i­cal, and thus we like him. We’re sup­posed to like him, even as we roll our eyes at him, because he may be bad at social sit­u­a­tions but at least he is objec­tive! It doesn’t even seem to occur to most geek view­ers that, by most mea­sures, Shel­don is a ter­ri­ble per­son. Because that doesn’t mat­ter as much as his adher­ence to an objec­tive, log­i­cal world­view. The com­par­i­son of him to Spock indi­cates, I think, another geek hero who rep­re­sents this wor­ship of log­i­cal think­ing over emo­tional intel­li­gence; while Spock’s char­ac­ter devel­op­ment mostly con­sists of him re-valuing emo­tion, most fans seem to see him as awe­some because he appears to escape the emotion-ridden, sub­jec­tively expe­ri­enced life that we must live through.

I think one of the rea­sons this logic wor­ship is just under the sur­face of geek com­mu­ni­ties, rather than explicit, is because fan com­mu­ni­ties are actu­ally all about per­sonal expe­ri­ences (with the text, with each other), even when they pre­tend not to be. This is a cul­ture in which peo­ple dress up as char­ac­ters, role-play as char­ac­ters, write sto­ries about char­ac­ters, and thus relate the text to them­selves and their lives. We get emo­tion­ally invested in our games, in our TV shows, in our movies, and in our books, because that’s what fans do. So per­haps this obses­sion with sci­ence and logic is more an anx­i­ety than any­thing else; maybe fans over­com­pen­sate for what they know is their own deeply per­sonal emo­tional engage­ment with a text.

Now, I’m not anti-logic or anti-science; I do think these things are valu­able, but they can only be con­vinc­ing and pow­er­ful when they take into account emo­tion and the human­i­ties (for lack of a bet­ter term). None of these things work best on their own. Which brings me to my real argu­ment: the idea that the human­i­ties are less impor­tant than STEM is an idea that geeks need to drop, because the human­i­ties are con­sti­tu­tive to geek cul­ture, just as much as sci­ence, tech­nol­ogy, and math are.

The idea that the human­i­ties is not impor­tant to geek cul­tures is patently ridicu­lous; most of the time geek fan cul­tures are based on books or TV shows (you know, things writ­ten by writ­ers and per­formed by actors, who are by def­i­n­i­tion in “the arts”); and game design­ers and writ­ers are likely to have stud­ied lit­er­a­ture and the arts to pre­pare for their jobs, not just pro­gram­ming and com­puter sci­ence. The study of the King Arthur myth, Tolkien, fan­tasy, and his­tory are not part of physics or chem­istry; they are part of the human­i­ties. Obvi­ously, sci­ence and math and com­put­ers are all impor­tant parts of geek cul­ture, but so is lit­er­a­ture and his­tory and the arts.

In fact, geek cul­ture is one of those places that the STEM fields and the human­i­ties have blended in a sig­nif­i­cant and sort of beau­ti­ful way; this is the cul­ture in which sci­en­tists and philoso­phers can and do have mean­ing­ful con­ver­sa­tions, in which lit­er­a­ture and sci­ence come together in a novel, in which the engi­neer and the lit­er­ary critic talk for hours on end at a con­ven­tion, in which art and cyborgs are not at all at odds. This is the place where these two “oppo­sites” meet and min­gle and blend, and for our com­mu­ni­ties to really shine, we need to get rid of this under­ly­ing belief that one is bet­ter than the other.

So let’s stop rag­ging on the arts and human­i­ties, and stop dis­miss­ing geeks who do them as lim­ited or sti­fled. Some of us are drawn to the human­i­ties and arts because of what they do in our cul­ture and can do for our cul­ture, because we rec­og­nize that they are impor­tant in geek cul­ture and in our world. I am not a lit­er­ary critic because I couldn’t think of any­thing more wor­thy to do. And I don’t think being one makes me less of a geek than any­one else.

About Courtney Stoker

Courtney is a loud bitchy feminist, geek, gamer, and atheist. She recently finished her M.A. in English, specializing in science fiction (Victorian and contemporary), science fiction fan cultures, and geek cultures. She is also a little obsessed with Doctor Who. You can find her on Twitter and at Geek Feminism.

8 Responses to Geekery and the humanities

  1. […] Cross posted at From Austin to A&M. […]

  2. Lane S. Hill of Dallas and the Outerlands says:

    I think the prob­lem is that there are mul­ti­ple geek cul­tures at work here. For instance, the cul­ture in a pro­gram­ming geek cul­ture (where we mostly talk over IRC and make fun of com­puter jan­i­tors) is sep­a­rate from a base­ball stats cul­ture (where they watch and fol­low games) which is pos­si­bly sep­a­rate from the Dr. Who cul­ture which is sep­a­rate from the XKCD cul­ture (who should all just be dri­ven off of a cliff). Of course, you can have inter­sec­tions of inter­ests and cul­ture, which is just like in any other cul­ture out there. I think it’s very dumb to say that there’s just one gold-standard geek cul­ture. There are lawyer geeks, art geeks, doc­tor geeks, Jesus geeks, clas­sics geeks (you and I know one of those!), etc, etc, etc, and to declare each of these geeks to be a geek based off of what is known as geek cul­ture is sort of silly.

    In my mind, there is an impor­tance of human­i­ties in geek cul­ture, but that’s just because geek cul­ture is made up of smaller geek cul­tures, or at least that’s my the­ory behind it. There are smaller geek cul­tures where human­i­ties are the sup­port struc­ture, and then there are some where sci­ence ares. Doesn’t make one or another geek cul­ture less valid.

    Hope­fully this makes sense!

  3. By “geek cul­ture,” I am refer­ring to an umbrella of spe­cific geek cul­tures here, that includes gamers, comic read­ers, and SF/F fans. Basi­cally, the type of geek that ThinkGeek.com tries to appeal to. These can be lumped together as a uni­fied cul­ture, even though there are obvi­ously dif­fer­ences between the smaller sub­cul­tures therein.

    And that geek cul­ture is hugely invested in the human­i­ties and the arts, even though it often wants to deny that con­nec­tion and empha­size its invest­ment in science/math/tech. There’s a lot of over­lap with more “nerdy” geek­eries here, which is prob­a­bly why this is such a problem.

  4. Lance Hunter says:

    I think your analy­sis of the rea­son Shel­don is such a star on Big Bang The­ory is off the mark. He’s the clown of the series, the out­landish, car­toon­ish one that pro­vides the most reli­able comic relief. His pop­u­lar­ity doesn’t have as much to do with the hyper-rationality of his behav­ior as it has to do with the unusu­al­ness of his behav­ior. It’s a sit­com tra­di­tion that’s almost as old as putting three cam­eras on a sound­stage. Look at Steve Urkel, Balki Bar­toko­mous, Latka Gravas, Vin­nie Bar­barino, The Fonz, and a whole slew of oth­ers. Shel­don has a whole lot more in com­mon with those char­ac­ters than he does with Spock.

  5. Okay. I real­ize he’s not the best exam­ple, and have said so on the thread at Geek Fem­i­nism. But I don’t think a bad exam­ple weak­ens my argu­ment. Spock, after all, is an excel­lent example.

  6. Esther says:

    I loved this! Saw it orig­i­nally on the Geek Fem­i­nism Blog, and I read it through, though usu­ally long posts like that on reader I usu­ally try to remind myself to go back to.

    So glad to read this. As an Eng­lish major fin­ish­ing a Library Sci­ence degree, some­times I won­der if I still have time to back­track a bit and get a sec­ond bach­e­lors in Com­puter Infor­ma­tion Sys­tems. Peo­ple, par­tic­u­larly women, in the STEM fields are totally my heroes, and I love the work they do, but I really do feel like a Human­i­ties girl.

    Any­way, thanks again. I can’t tell you what a great reminder this is.

  7. Clix says:

    I noted that we seem to only be includ­ing women in the science/tech/math fields when we talked about “geek girls”

    I think this may actu­ally be a reflec­tion of the sur­round­ing culture’s typ­i­cal por­trayal (by which I mean car­i­ca­ture) of what it means to be a geek. Geeks have poor social skills and wor­ship logic, which is why they go into STEM fields. Oh, and they wear thick glasses and pocket pro­tec­tors. And they love gad­gets. etc. etc. yanno? ;)

    Geeks who are priv­i­leged in other ways (typ­i­cally young white het cis men) will have more power to push back against this car­i­ca­ture and pos­si­bly reshape it. And it’s kind of under­stand­able that they do so in ways that reflect their own priv­i­leges. Per­haps not entirely admirable… but understandable.

  8. Sure, but that’s my point, I guess. Geeks at a sci fi con­ven­tion should know bet­ter than to rely on car­i­ca­tures of them­selves. Hon­estly, I think they tend to like that char­ac­ter­i­za­tion of them­selves, because then they get to think they’re smarter than every­one else. Because they think, like the vast major­ity of peo­ple, that sci­ence and math are hard, and the human­i­ties are easy.